Panelist Commenter 1, Commenter, said an extended federal government shutdown could differ from past shutdowns because of changes in leadership approach and deeper ideological entrenchment. "Usually what's happened with the shutdowns is that, you know, we've had 1, the first Trump administration to last about a month, but the effects, they were there, but they went away. This could be different for a couple of reasons. Number 1, Trump 2, he's out there wanting to fire federal employees, and he's targeting the Democrats that way. Secondly, they seem to be more dug in on ideological positions. And so that so that would that makes a difference also."

Commenter 1 described the politics as an escalating contest and cited polling results without naming the pollster: "The other thing, this is this is like an arm wrestling match where they just whoever conflict the most pain is going to win and the rest of the audience just doesn't care they just want it over with. What's really fascinating about this too is that the Republicans blame the Democrats, the Democrats blame you know the Republicans in the polling, the Independents blame both of them. And over a third of the Americans that are polled blame them both. But what's also interesting to me is that in the polling it shows that over half of the Democrats are wondering if this is even worth it. That was a week and a half ago."

Commenter 2, Commenter, contextualized the polling numbers and urged elected officials to pay attention to public blame metrics: "If you add the people who say the Democrats are responsible to the people who say Democrats and Republicans are equally responsible, you get about 2 thirds of people. If you have the people who say Republicans are primarily responsible and the people who say both are equally responsible, you get about 60% of people. So no matter what party you are in out there right now, if you're an elected official, 2 thirds of America thinks you have substantial blame for what's going on in politics, and I think that they should pay attention to that."

During a later exchange, Commenter 3, Commenter, praised local reporting and asked whether ordinary people were paying attention: "Heidi, you have great reporting on this. So I'm just really kinda curious. I mean, are are the people paying attention to this? And at what point does it hurt enough to the right Yeah."

Commenter 4, Commenter, described local Utah mitigations and potential pressure points that could increase public complaint: "I think a lot of people when you talk to them, they say Congress has 1 job. They should do it. Lock them up inside. Don't give them food and snacks until they come out with a decision. But here at home in Utah, we take away some of those pressure points by allowing the parks to remain open." Commenter 4 added that fall break increases potential travel pressure and that key federal-worker populations such as those at Hill Air Force Base were being supported: "Right now, we're on fall break for a lot of the kids in school, college, and also local schools. So families, if they're trying to get to the parks and all of a sudden they can't get in, they're going to complain. ... At this point, it'll probably pressure points when we're talking about the families that work for TSA or if we have air traffic controllers that don't show up and you can't get to where you're supposed to when you're flying." Later: "Hill Air Force Base is 1 of our larger populations of federal employees. At this point, they've been taken care of, which is an interesting kind of in between of this. But I think it will get to the point where both parties have to come to the table and figure out how to get together and make a decision when it starts to look bad for them on TV. Right now, there's not enough people complaining."

The speakers repeatedly referenced polling numbers but did not specify the poll source, methodology, or dates beyond one remark that a referenced poll was "a week and a half ago." The discussion distinguished between political blame and material pressure points: speakers said a shutdown’s real-time effects on air travel, state parks and federal workforces could change how voters allocate blame between the major parties. The conversation did not include any formal motions, votes or policy directives.

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